Comments on: TrueNAS Scale Released and Resetting the NAS Paradigm

By: Steven

Steven — Thu, 24 Feb 2022 20:27:16 +0000

I certainly share the picture Patrick is painting here. But as he said, it will take years to get there.
Weeks ago i tried to converge all my NAS and VM on a single SCALE system. It did not go well.
Performance issues, missing USB passthrough for VMs, etc.
For VMs i am back to Proxmox now, and SCALE is used for storage. Great setup for now, and i will test SCALE again in 2023/2024 for VMs. But right now, it is not there yet.

Still a huge potential to make a positive shift in the market!
And iXSystems is a great company, the development is very open and i have been impatiently alpha and beta testing for a year now. Cant wait for the day when TrueNAS SCALE can be my All-In-One solution!

By: John

John — Thu, 24 Feb 2022 12:32:22 +0000

Harsh comment and a bit unfair too. Isn’t the whole point here, and as explained in the article as well, that TrueNAS Scale is moving from NAS to hyperconverged infrastructure which aims to consolidate NAS and hypervisor in one? And in that regard the comparison with a hypervisor is perfectly valid. So maybe be a bit more careful with calling other people incompetent. 😉

By: Tim G

Tim G — Thu, 24 Feb 2022 02:50:47 +0000

I’m confused at the Proxmox comparison; its completely irrelevant.. It’s like you ran out of things to talk about and decided to compare a NAS to a Hypervisor? Was there any question that Proxmox as a NAS? at any time? really?

If you had compared TrueNAS to Synology.. I would be far, far, less confused.. the only comparison is their use of OpenZFS.. thats it..

Repeat after me.. one is a NAS, the other is a Hypervisor..

I wouldn’t even use ZFS normally under business conditions with Proxmox.. I would use CEPH. Ceph is a distributed object store and file system. As a HA drive backplane; designed for clustering nodes together that is far more suited for a 3+ Hypervisor node / cluster setup..

Ceph, designed by Red Hate, IBM and the likes is a very competitive solution. You should read up more on CEPH at ceph dot com. You might sound more competent next time. 😉

By: Johnny V.

Johnny V. — Wed, 23 Feb 2022 23:04:17 +0000

While I’m happy that Scale is out, I’m using it for Minecraft for my kids. True Charts hasn’t gotten MineOS working that I know of as of yet from last looking. I’ll go research it here after posting this. But for my use case rn it is working and I’m not moving anything over until I know for sure it is working. The old moto of “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” screaming in my head. lol

By: Ruud van Strijp

Ruud van Strijp — Wed, 23 Feb 2022 17:55:34 +0000

I had a VMware server in my house for lab and ‘production’ (DNS etc) purposes. I wanted to switch to a software raid solution (don’t want to pay for a new controller if mine would fail), and have an easy way to run docker containers. TrueNAS Scale seemed like a great option, so I installed RC2 last month. Unfortunately, after a couple of days trying to figure out file permissions and their issues (ISO uploaded via SMB couldn’t get mounted in KVM. Their forum couldn’t solve it either), I gave up. This was after days of trying to get everything to work via Linux shell, as a non-Linux guy.

Perhaps TrueNAS can work well if you have a lot of experience with it and Linux. But VMware is just a lot more fool-proof. And since labor is expensive, the total cost of ownership of a VMware platform might still be worth it.

FYI I landed on Unraid for my home server and so far I’m very happy. Worked out of the box, not a single issue while deploying my use cases.

By: David

David — Wed, 23 Feb 2022 15:43:57 +0000

As someone who just helped a SMB getting Proxmox VE setup on hand-me-down R720’s, I’m instantly pondering if I’ll being doing an overhaul in the next 12 months.

Patrick, I think an excellent video / tutorial would me migrating VMs from Proxmox VE to TrueNAS Scale and back, so folks can get comfortable with this process. KVM is KVM, right?